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Just for the record
When Joe and I moved out of Bond Street, we gave a full month's notice to our flatmates and paid our rent right up to the date we moved out, as per our legal and ethical responsibility. It's as simple as that. If for some reason anyone needs any proof of the above, I have it all in writing and am happy to share. I've never missed a rent payment in my life.

I shouldn't have had to refer to that here, but apparently someone has decided, once again, to smear my name all over the internet and this time in an incident she wasn't a part of in the slightest and quite obviously has no understanding of whatsoever.

Get the fuck over it. You couldn't scare Joe away from me and you can't scare my new flatmate away either. Nor can you frighten away my friends. In fact, all this ranting is doing is driving them away from you. This is the first and last time I will bite.

In other news, the PMS has cleared right up and I had a great day today. Joe and I went and hung out with Marcie in Queen Street Mall. It's been ages since I've seen her and it was good. Water under the bridge or something like that... whatever was wrong between us before, it's in the past. I had a really nice time. :) Yesterday we wound up at the Botanical Gardens in Mt Cootha with Hammond and Sian, having an impromptu picnic. Many plants were admired (and sometimes laughed at - sorry plants, splants.)
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tengukun From: tengukun Date: June 9th, 2008 06:59 am (UTC) (Link)
Geez... some people really don't know what to call it quits. :P
tania From: tania Date: June 9th, 2008 11:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nope. Maybe I missed the memo about constant bitching, moaning and fingerpointing accomplishing anything. Maybe I should try a new approach and be -flattered- that every second journal entry / status update is about me. Or maybe I should just go back to what I've been doing for the past six months and ignore it.
radam From: radam Date: June 9th, 2008 07:12 am (UTC) (Link)
I know this is none of my business but I always thought your legal responsibility, if you were breaking a lease (which I think you were) was that you must pay rent until a new house mate is found whether you told them you were leaving or not. Either way, it's not like Richard was going to change his mind about letting you live with him over a few extra weeks.

As for your ethical responsibilities, they're another matter all together. Ethically, what happened shouldn't have caused your friends to feel this way towards you.

Edited at 2008-06-09 07:14 am (UTC)
jkarabella From: jkarabella Date: June 9th, 2008 08:47 am (UTC) (Link)
There you go, assuming that Tania understands that the law applies to her.
tania From: tania Date: June 9th, 2008 11:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's funny that the law applies to me, but not Andrew, Chris, Joe, or anyone else I've ever shared with. In the cases of all those other people who left in the middle of a lease, they've given notice and left, and the flatmates who've remained have found replacements. Forgive me for expecting that I'd receive the same treatment as everyone else.
jkarabella From: jkarabella Date: June 10th, 2008 11:38 am (UTC) (Link)
I'll get to you when I'm settled, right now I'm too busy being responsible with other things.

Oh and it will include your own judgement of yourself, based off your statements about previous housemates.
tania From: tania Date: June 10th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't want your judgement, Kim, I think 'she needs a pickaxe to the head' pretty much summed up your feelings on me, back when I was misguidedly trying to keep a friendship going with you. As for my judgement of myself, by definition that comes from within me, not from you.

If your garbled sentence was you trying to express that I've held previous housemates to a different standard, that of demanding more than two weeks notice, no, I haven't - Mandrew paid for two weeks after he left because he didn't give any notice at all, therefore those two weeks constituted his notice. We didn't require him to pay more just because we couldn't find a flatmate to replace him. Chris paid up until he left and no more. That's how it's been in the five share houses I've lived in, and generally I've been the one left behind looking for replacement flatmates, as was my responsibility.

Kelly's given me an idea of what the pest treatment and my share of the cleaning came to, so please take the final amounts for those out of my bond, absorb the rest as previously discussed, and contact Joe to collect payment for his cleaning share. Beyond that, you've made it clear that you're not interested in further communication, and that suits me well. I'll contact you at tax time to double-check your account details.
tania From: tania Date: June 9th, 2008 11:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
You're a sweetheart, Adders, and you're quite right - but in every share house I've been in, including this one, flatmates move in and out throughout the lease all the time. They give two weeks notice (I gave four) and generally aren't expected to find replacements for themselves (I found a number of options), and in seven years of sharehousing I've never once seen someone informed (not asked - informed) that they are to continue paying rent at the place they're no longer living until the remaining people there find a replacement. And up 'til now, I've always been the person left behind, struggling to find a replacement. And in all the times I was in that position, I never dreamed of demanding more money from a former flatmate.

Flatmates come and go. It's an understood part of share housing in Australia.

What I find confusing is that this demand for extra rent did not apply to Andrew, to Chris, to Joe when they left Bond Street - to Susan or to Rob when they left Heidelberg Street - to any of the flatmates I had in Felix Street who came and went during the course of the lease - yet somehow, it applies to me. Not only does it apply to me, but apparently the breaking of this Tania-only law is shocking enough that it warrants locked livejournal entries whining about me, and status updates on Facebook trumpeting over what a rotten bugger I am... for breaking a rule which seems to apply to nobody but me.

Call me a looney, but it kind of seems ridiculous.

Oh, and one more thing: Joe took exactly the same stance I did, but nobody has even mentioned his name. Personal much?

Edited at 2008-06-09 11:51 pm (UTC)
radam From: radam Date: June 10th, 2008 04:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Mmmm... Internet drama: the best sort of drama.

I don't know who's side to take so I'm just going to hide in my room until this blows over.

Who's trumpeting on Facebook?

tania From: tania Date: June 10th, 2008 05:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Nice icon. You will eat me? Hot. ;)

Replied privately, but in short, I don't want you to take sides. If you pick me up and swing me around next time we see each other, that should be sufficient. :)
radam From: radam Date: June 10th, 2008 05:27 am (UTC) (Link)
You will absolutely be swung around ;)
thornwolf From: thornwolf Date: June 9th, 2008 07:30 am (UTC) (Link)
That's shitty. Ex roomies blow. I wonder why they're being such a busy body.
tania From: tania Date: June 10th, 2008 05:34 am (UTC) (Link)
That would be my fault, originally. I did something very stupid that hurt that person (not the ex-roomie) very badly seven months ago during my "rendered stupid with depression" phase. (Well done for getting your own seen to so quickly, Nico - I wish I had done the same, -before- I stuffed up my life at the time something chronic...)

So: I did something bad and I take full responsibility for that. At that person's request I haven't spoken of the incident, haven't attempted to make contact with them and have been careful to avoid being involved in their life in any way for the past seven months. They seem keenly interested in observing and commenting on my life, however, which I would think would defeats the purpose of keeping me away. For someone who wanted nothing more to do with me, they sure like to have a lot to do with me.

Edited at 2008-06-10 06:13 am (UTC)
rosequoll From: rosequoll Date: June 9th, 2008 08:29 am (UTC) (Link)
I hate drama, which is the #1 reason that I very much look forward to Daniel moving out and leaving the house to Stephen and I. And next year, we'll buy a place (I hope).

Also, I mostly had to comment to say that every time you do the 'look around you' word amalgamation, I laugh out loud. ^_^
tania From: tania Date: June 10th, 2008 05:27 am (UTC) (Link)
My fondest hope is that after staying with Richard for some time, saving and paying off that block of land, the next place I live will be my own. Well, mine and the bank's.

Thanks Rose - Throse. ;)
rosequoll From: rosequoll Date: June 10th, 2008 08:14 am (UTC) (Link)
*tinyflail* ^_^ And yeah, I'm just at the point where I think I need to give in and buy a house. It's what I really deeply want, and I'm tired of living at the whim of OTHER people. People who can choose not to renew leases, etc. Too stressful.
scoutlostthewar From: scoutlostthewar Date: June 9th, 2008 09:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Boo to drama.

tania From: tania Date: June 9th, 2008 11:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes. This should never have even been an issue. Every other flatmate we've ever had in every place we've ever lived has given notice and left with nothing further said.
stokerbramwell From: stokerbramwell Date: June 10th, 2008 02:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Gotta love people with no lives of their own.
kayjkay From: kayjkay Date: June 10th, 2008 06:39 am (UTC) (Link)
You know... when the end of my lease came up at the last place I roomed with folks, two of the roomies just refused to get back to me if they wanted to move out or not, with repeated attempts to ask them "should we stay or go?" And then, three weeks before the lease is up, after I gave the landlord notice, and started moving out, did they flail their arms about, "Well wait, what about US?"

It was at the point in my life where I FINALLY learned to take care of myself instead of EVERYONE else. There were four roomies total. The two good roomies, whom I still talk to, ended up moving into the same complex I moved into, and were quite happy there.

The other two? They had to fend for themselves.

tania From: tania Date: June 10th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's almost exactly what's happened here. I'm finally learning to take care of myself too and stop stressing over how other people are coping with their lives, but it's hard to adjust to.
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